he would like to see more students getting their education through online courses. the governor making that pitch today during the meeting that was also attended by lieutenant governor gavin newsom. increased online courses was also spearheaded by the u.c. president. he said there are no other ways to get around the traditional methods of education. the governor says the system needs to make the changes. he says that both the u.c. and -- [indiscernible] -- needs to hold the line on tuition and costs and thinks online courses will do that. he says it may even benefit high schools. >> maybe the online expansion can get into the high schools and get kids into math and science and even language and other programs that can get them ready so they'll be part of that pool that come to u.c. >> i think we should think about the day -- and this is maybe in a five-year period, maybe 15% of the courses taken by each undergraduate would be online. >> reporter: while the governor says online courses will streamline costs, others don't think it will. it's that flop you mentioned ea